Could the Holodomor be seen in a new light after the Russian invasion of Ukraine? [closed]

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The Politicus
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As to wikipedia, Holodomor is

  • Considered genocide by 16 countries
  • Considered as a criminal act of Stalin's regime by 6 countries
  • Considered a tragedy or crime against humanity by 5 international organizations
  • Country: Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Soviet Union
    Location: Central and eastern Ukraine
    Period: 1932–1933
  • Total deaths: Around 3.5 million

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Further information on the strong difference between rural and urban population shows that the Holodomor thinned out rural areas.

How to get per 1000 deaths numbers for the 1932-34 Holodomor in Ukraine for the rural areas only, against the less starving town population?

From the maps at that link, it is not clear how many fled and then survived, but did not come back to their farms, perhaps the thinning out happened also by the fleeing of farmers, not only by their deaths.

The overall Holodomor excess deaths per 1000 were:

161.7 (rural, ranging roughly from 100 to 500)
40.4 (town, ranging roughly from 10 to 100)

Ukraine itself has had a lot of Russian influence and immigration over time, but the Russian invasion looks like a part of a long-term plan.

Soviet Russians settled the eastern Ukraine, obviously striving for a corridor from Moscow to the Black Sea, and the Holodomor only happened in Ukraine (wide-spread over the country, not just in the east, perhaps to make it less obvious and to weaken Ukraine, see the table above). It thinned out the Ukrainian rural population, mainly Ukrainian Cossacks, and this led to new space to settle. Mind that the rural population suffered over the whole Ukraine, not in the east, but it was still the area that made sense to be settled from the Russian and White Russian viewpoint.

The corridor, a map from The Russian ‘invasion’ of Ukraine in maps and numbers - Map: Areas of Ukraine where there has been anti-government or pro-Russia separatist movements since March with areas of pro-Russian separatist movements:

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If the Ukrainian Russians themselves behave like it, they perhaps knew about the long-term plan - from the start. No one would say it of course, but it looks like a long-term Russian conspiracy that was covered by each nowadays Ukrainian Russians, without needed public debate on it so that no one would have a proof. It would fit in the ideology of that time of expansion of the strong peoples to push away the weak peoples to the side.

Already the historical events before the Crimea occupation look as if to fulfill a Stalinist and Bolshevik long-term plan of Russian expansion to the Black Sea.
But the events of Crimea and eastern Ukraine might show this plan more clearly and hint at the Holodomor to have been a calculated deed for geostrategic aims from the start since it seems like a tool, it did not just happen for nothing. All of this can be seen from the mere Russian behaviour and wrong historical reasoning of today. And therefore, such political events can change the way the overall history can be seen.

Though the question of the Holodomor is about a historical evaluation, there might also be political reasons that countries did not acknowledge it in some way up to now.

Could the Holodomor be seen as

  • genocide,
  • criminal act or
  • tragedy or crime against humanity

by more countries and international organizations because of the new Ukraine events?
Or less formal: is there a chance that the Holodomor is seen in a new light after the separatist movments, Crimea occupation and the Russian invasion?

Mind that the Soviet Russian and later Russian immigration in Ukraine was and is an event of taking Ukrainian land. I do not see a reason why this should still be doubted or be seen as speculation since it has already happened and is obvious.

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